From sven.wannas@multi.fi Mon Nov 25 10:11:26 2002
Subject:RE: Decent Results with A CX3 (at last)

Hi David,

I do also have the same experience as you have, also did use the "Amp type 1
or 2" modeling before with my CX-3 and Leslie.

When I bought my Speakeasy preamp for about 6 months ago I did try many
different settings on my CX-3.
Did found out that when I did use "preamp mode" the CX-3's drawbars sounded
much more balanced with the Speakeasy and Leslie than before with only CX-3
"amp type 1 or 2" and Leslie.

I do how ever have my CX-3's EQ flat eventually adjust little more bass and
little less treble to taste depending on the room, Speakeasy Treble at 1 or
2 a clock Bas at max (this with Speakeasy Classic and CX-3 V1).

One main thing with the CX-3 and Speakeasy combination is you need to put
some thing in between them because of the CX-3's weak output level in
"preamp mode", turn up the output volume on that in between gear until
Speakeasy's first tube stage start to saturate then lower until you get a
clean signal now you have enough feed for the Speakeasy. Now you can get
Speakeasy, Leslie or both to growl or very clean depending on Volume
positions.

Regards,
Sven Wannäs

-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:DAVIDO@LYNXFS.COM]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:31 PM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CWSG] Decent Results with A CX3 (at last)

Just thought i'd share this.. since there's been a lot of criticism
of the CX3 lately. I'm one of those that has been struggling with the
CX3 in a band setting for some while. Recently added a Speakeasy and
a Leslie 145 which improved things but i was still suffering with
problems with a weak top octave.
So, before yesterdays band rehearsal i thought i'd try using the Pre
Amp setting. I set the internal EQ to 10 for bass, mid and treble and
the output to 127 to ensure a hot signal out from the board (as the
pre amp setting has less oomph than the amp types settings).
The bass and mid on the board were set hard over and the treble at 12
O clock. I used the Speakeasy Treble control to wind off the highs a
bit, i liked it best, set at about 2 O clock. Speakeasy Volume at
Max, Bass at Max.

I have to report that this was much more successfull when combined
with the Speakeasy and the 145, the top 2 octaves cut through a band
mix much better and the CX3 just sounds more Hammond like to my ears
on this setting, especially on a palm gliss.

I think that most of the problems with the CX3 are inherant in the
Amp Type and the Leslie Modelling. At low volume Amp Type 1 sounds
great but something within the sound processing seems to cause those
important frequencies to clip, especially when you start to drive
things a bit. Add the Leslie Sim into the equation and the problem
gets even more complicated as you then have rotot balances and MIC
distances to worry about.
I even tried switching back to Amp Type 1 with gain at 0, (no Leslie
Sim obviously), and the preset was noticeably less 'present' than on
the Pre Amp setting.

On the Pre Amp setting the keyboard seems to be better balanced and
without the Modelling the sound has more presence where you need it.
I'd always avoided this setting as it tends to sound a bit thin and
weedy, (especially at low volumes) but i think the key is to max out
the internal EQ to get a beefy signal out to the pre amp. Obviously,
if you don't have either a Speakeasy or a Leslie, then your stuck
with the problem, but for anyone using a CX3 in the same way as i do,
then this is really worth a try. I'm convinced enough that i've blown
through all of my presets to use the Pre Amp Setting as above. It's
worth stating also, that this does not suffer from the shrill top
octave problem as you can use the Speakeasy to adjust the treble back
to suit. Not saying it'll work for you (it clearly won't if your not
using a Speakeasy and a Leslie) but i'm a lot happier...

Dave

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