From chazzp@yahoo.com Thu Jun 27 07:02:32 2002
Subject:Re: Motif8 & KBR3D

--- In CloneWheel@y..., "noodles882001" wrote:
> ...new to the Clonewheel page and was wondering if anybody has
> written
> a decent (or bad) but thorough review of the KBR3D.
>
> As in other posts: I too am trying to cut down on the amount of gear
> /
> setup / strike time for the weekend warrior gigs that I do about
> twice
> a month.
>
> For a tone gen, the Voce V5 sounds like it is the way to go but for
> the time being I will be using a KBR3D (ordered but not received
yet)
> and Yamaha Motif8 stock and sampled organs to achieve Organ-ic
> Simulation. The CX-3 sounds nice but one KB is enough.
>
> The Motif non organ sounds will plug into the KBR3D's stereo inputs.
>
> The Motif organ sounds will plug into the KBR3D's rotary sim inputs.
>
> I will also be trying to coax lead/rhythme guitar sounds (into the
3D
> input) out of the KBR3D with a Telecaster & Digitech ValveFX unit.
>
> An A/B switch will allow me to rout guitar into the 2nd rotary
input
> (ValveFX out levels?) in case we do 'Badge'.
>
> All this at a stage volume level to hopefully mix well with 3 other
> musicians: bass, drums & guitar
>
> I have heard that the KBR3D seems to have some frequency response
> issues and so I will be trying to run both the stereo keyboard
signal
> and the mono organ signal through a Yamaha ProMix01 mixer to
> compensate if necessary. I also have a Fender Twin Reverb to use
as
> possible guitar and low end extension with the KBR3D sub out mod.
I
> don't want to step on our bassist's toes however so if the KBR3D is
a
> little thin in the lows it might not be such a bad thing.
>
> Just wondering what kind of success others have had with this or
> similar scenarios. Thanks all.
>
> Great post board...
>
> Au Reverb

I'm very happy with my KBR3d for the compromises it has to make.
70 lbs on casters is a heck of lot better than humping a Leslie.
Regarding piano section, I just use a Wurly 200 EP thru it and I'm
delighted with the sound. Tons of headroom and great crunch. I can't
say as I've noticed any frequency response issues. But I've ditched
playing digital pianos since I bought this amp and went back to my
old Wurly.

For me the main problem is just constantly trying to achieve the best
integration between my XK2 and the organ section. I just know it can
never match the playing experience of my home B-3 & Leslie. And I
actually get more frustrated with just the changes in my playing
technique on my clone rig than worrying about the sound. So much goes
into just sitting on a Hammond bench and having that big piece of
furniture with those 2 great key beds & pedalboard arrayed in front
of you. Can the cloners ever really get us there?