From deke@dekethegeek.com Fri Aug 02 11:46:32 2002
Subject:RE: two mics on top...

Check the hamster list archives... there was a pretty extensive series of
posts on that list about this very subject. Apparently the microphone of
choice for this application is a Kobitone dynamic mini-microphone. The
Kobitone mic's are around the diameter of a large crayon or something, and a
couple inches long. The consensus on the list was to place these mic's at
each of the two front corners of the leslie cabinet on top and bottom (to
keep them out of the way). The first step was to cut out some packing foam
or similar, cut a small slit in the inward facing surface of it, and slide
the Kobitone into the slit. Attach the foam with a silicone adhesive or hot
glue... one of the guys who regularly used these mic's said he didn't use a
mixer or anything to combine signals... he just soldered the leads of the
left rotor mike to the leads of the left treble mike, and the same with the
right side... so he has two channels. He said he mounted two XLR jacks on
the bach panel of the Leslie (the Kobitones are balanced signal mic's by the
way), and he can use either side as a mono single channel feed, send both
sides to the board as a stereo feed (best), or use a 2 into 1 cable on the
back of his Leslie to get the full effect (what you said you desired) of a
stereo image, but it only takes up one channel on the board. I'll be
installing these into my Leslie as soon as I get one... hehe! Oh, yeah... I
forgot to mention the price of the Kobitones... something under 10 bucks
apiece... a pretty cheap project with apparently great results.

Link to hamster searchable archives:

http://www.zeni.net/hf/ ... search in 2002 for Kobitone

Deke The Geek

-----Original Message-----
From: fatboy145leslie [mailto:mlongo@highmarkdesign.com]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:31 PM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CWSG] two mics on top...

Hi Folks,

I play a CX-3 into a Leslie 145, which is usually mic'd into the
house sound board. For convenience I have installed a desktop mic
clip in the upper rotor space, and another clip in the lower rotor
space. I use a pair of SM-57's (with windscreens) which I offer to
the house sound crew for use.

The thing is, with only one mic on the upper rotor, the tremolo
Leslie sound heard through the house system sounds too slow (wow---
wow---wow, rather than the more familiar wow-wow-wow). So I'm
thinking about using two mics on the upper rotor (as is done when
recording a Leslie). Two mics would effectively double the perceived
rotational speed of the rotor, making it sound more like what you
hear when listening to an unmic'd Leslie in a room (with wall
reflections).

When doing this, I would like to make a permenant installaion of two
mics inside the upper rotor compartment. I know that different
members of this forum have experimented with internal mics for the
PRO-3, and perhaps Leslies too. I think I'll need to use mics that
are smaller than the '57 stick mics to fit them. Dynamic mics are
best for this application (no batteries), but I'll use condensers if
I must. Sound quality is important to me. My questions:

* what brand of mics did you use and what did you think
of their tonal character?

* how did you mount them?

* how did you wire them?

I would like to wire them to two XLR jacks so that I could use just
one jack to get both mic outputs (mono) or use both jacks for
stereo. I expect I'll need to wire in a switch to do that, how would
I wire it?

Any help with this would be much appreciated!

Mark Longo

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