From tymelys22@tadamson.greatxscape.net Fri Sep 21 16:01:06 2001
Subject:Re: Clone players are real B3 players

I have long been of the opinion that the organ is at one and the same
time, the easiest and hardest of instruments to play.
Easy in that in no time you can sit down at the keyboard and knock
out some tune, holding notes legato style helping to produce a
reasonable sounding melody and no touch sensitivity cancelling out
uneven pressures on the keys which takes a deal of practice to do on
the piano.
From then on though the instrument just becomes the toughest of
mistress and very few go on to really master that certain technique
which is often described as "making the thing talk". Its speed of
attack and lack of touch sensitivity making it all the more demanding
of accurate technique.
I once knew a pretty accomplished Cinema Organist who just couldn't
hack it at the keyboard of a Hammond which is totally unforgiving of
anything less than perfect timing and a right foot that is in less
than total sympathy with the brain's instructions regarding
expression. How many pub organists seem to think they are pumping
wind into the reeds of a harmonium or blowing up the tyres of an old
Ford car.
Clone or real deal, these things sure take some playing.
Thomas.

--- In CloneWheel@y..., M T wrote:
> Hmmm...not sure how far I agree with that statement. I
> mean...anyone can strap on a guitar and learn a few
> chords, but does that make them a guitar player?
>
> By the same account, does playing a Korg O1/W set to
> the organ patch (as I used to do!) make one a "real
> B-3 player?" I don't think so.
>
> I think (and this is all personal opinion) you can
> often tell if someone is playing a clone and has never
> spent any time on the real thing. There's just a
> certain sound and feel that's missing. And the
> opposite is true also. I mean...I know Joey D can make
> any clone sound good!
>
> As an example, if I am out to hear a band and the
> keyboard player is playing a clone but has no
> expression pedal...I question the player's "pedigree",
> so to speak. I consider the expression pedal to be of
> the utmost importance to the sound of the B-3.
> (Consider...you can't play the organ any more or less
> hard for certain passages. It's only got two modes of
> touch sensitivity - on or off!) Of course, that
> doesn't mean they aren't a good player or sincerely
> love the B-3 sound. But there is an important aspect
> missing.
>
> Others might say that if you can't kick pedals, you
> aren't really a B-3 player (notice i said, "others" -
> I don't necessarily hold this view).
>
> Anyway, I understand and agree with the spirit of the
> original post. However, I think some clarification is
> necessary. Kind of like the "All apples are fruits,
> but not all fruits are apples" axiom.
>
> "All B-3 players can play clones, but not all clone
> players can play B-3's!"
>
> (Or something like that...)
>
> Mitch
>
> --- mellowdmaker@a... wrote:
> > Gentleman and Ladies(I know ther are many lady B3
> > players),
> > I am new to this forum...great tech info and
> > talk...I have played
> > the "real thing", a B3 many times...
> > I have played my old Crumar Organizer for 20
> > years and now am the
> > very proud owner of a CX3...
> > A Clone player is a B3 player...they are
> > portable,but not the real
> > thing...
> > A clone player is the person who brings to the
> > stage the sound of
> > an instrument that is not easy or wise to move...
> > It is the sound, not the name on the instrument
> > you play that
> > counts...
> > I have read all of the mail that has been posted
> > in the last ten
> > days...tech talk is good...
> > How do I use my Clone ? On Wednesday nite I meet
> > with my old
> > friends in a local Bar and we play classic blues,
> > Top 40 rock songs,
> > sometimes simple folk songs, or even country tunes.
> > Richard from
> > Germany tells me they plat bavarian folk songs and
> > even Techno stuf
> > and his older CX3 fits rightin...
> > I would suggest that just because your sound
> > comes from an Old
> > Organizer, a VK7, a CX3, an Emu or what ever...you
> > are not a clone
> > player...you are a B3 player....
> > How do you bring the sound of the Hammond to the
> > mass
> > population..if it is live, it is probably a "Clone"
> > The term "Clone" has surely helped this forum
> > grow...
> > But I consider myself a Hammond Player..and so
> > should all those
> > who would take the time and money to bring this
> > sound to the public,
> > on any instrument that has
> > Drawbars...percussion....a Leslie with
> > slow and fast....or some other representation of
> > "THAT sound"
> >
> > SO...thank you for you time..Clone players are only
> > Hammond owners
> > that can play anywhere and not have to hire moveing
> > companies each
> > time they share the sound....
> > " ROCK ON WITH YOUR BAD SELF"
> > Mellowdmaker@a...
> >
>
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