From las8323@rs175174.ks.boeing.com Thu Jun 14 06:17:58 2001
Subject:Re: Controllers and key action!

Ahh, I see ... now. You are, of course, right.

I've long been a fan of 1module per manual, upper and lower. Someday I'll
be indulgent enough to run a V3 by itself for one manual. But you're doing
it right.

Larry

>
> My situation is that sometimes I have both manuals contributing midi
> information to the V3 and sometimes I only need the top manual to contribute
> the midi information to the V3. The bottom (Roland XP-30 with Session
> board), (I'm not thrilled with the piano sounds for studio), I figured that
> since I couldn't split the top and bottom audio contributions to the total
> output that goes to the Rotosphere, that this would be the easiest way to
> quickly isolate the keyboard help me contribute piano/organ layers with
> volume control balance.
>
> I had thought of re-doing my keyboard assignments in the V3 LCD editable
> sections of the multiple presets. To Make one setting for only the top
> manual and another for both, but... Urrgh! I like switches I can see and
> place near me. I don't have time to look at a little LCD display that is
> hard to see in the midst of guitar and drum induced bedlam to twist a knob
> and control my sonic destiny.
>
> But the midi/preset edit would have been alot of changes to edit in and
> mostly I don't have visual access to the V3. It's tucked back in a Rok-Sak
> rack, and the controls I need are on the drawbar. When the V3 is used
> outside it's too bright, inside it's not at eye level, etc. So I just did a
> bug box that I can put in any midi line to shut it off. I asked around the
> stores before I got the midi info (thanks, Clone wheelers!!!) and the parts
> and all responses on the street were "Why would you want to shut off the
> midi" So I went ahead and did it myself. It works great. No hum, no buzz.
> Just stop playing all notes at switch time. I can do the switch mid-riff if
> necessary.
>
> The overall set up for my rig is time consuming, All midi, all stereo, but
> ultimately it mounts on a three level Ultimate Apache Stand with a bunch of
> re-usable wire ties, the unit can be lifted; V3, two keyboards, Rane SM-82
> mixer and all Wall Warts, by two people and I need one AC power outlet and
> direct boxes from the house to accept stereo TRS cables. Now I'm quicker
> on and off stage than the guitar with lots of pedals.
>
> RG
> --
>
> From: Larry Schurr
> Reply-To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:36:56 -0500
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CWSG] Controllers and key action!
>
> I did sumthin' like this only I switched the audio to keep the midi clean.
>
> SPDT switch. center to amp input (instrument out), one side to module out,
> other side to ground. That way the module is always 'playing', ya just
> don't hafta hear it. When switched 'off', the input is grounded so there's
> no hum.
>
> Larry
>
> >
> > I use a V3 with two manuals, into the midi merge, a old Kawai K11 for the
> > top and the Roland XP-30 for the bottom. The actions are similar, not a
> > piano, not really weighted but is a budget system that works.
> > I don't do anything with midi changes on the keyboards, the draw bars do
> > that. I built a quick kill switch for the midi flow to the XP-30 for quick
> > organ (top) and piano or Synth (bottom) simultaneous playing. Switching
> > with active V3 midi stream will hang up. Switch between notes. All through
> > a Rotosphere, fast - slow switched by side slip footswitch on the Ernie Ball
> > pedal. Lots of set-up prep but lots of real time variabless for sound
> > control.
> > RG
> > --
>