From rgafner@pressroom.com Wed Jun 13 13:28:01 2001
Subject:Re: Controllers and key action!

My situation is that sometimes I have both manuals contributing midi
information to the V3 and sometimes I only need the top manual to contribute
the midi information to the V3. The bottom (Roland XP-30 with Session
board), (I'm not thrilled with the piano sounds for studio), I figured that
since I couldn't split the top and bottom audio contributions to the total
output that goes to the Rotosphere, that this would be the easiest way to
quickly isolate the keyboard help me contribute piano/organ layers with
volume control balance.

I had thought of re-doing my keyboard assignments in the V3 LCD editable
sections of the multiple presets. To Make one setting for only the top
manual and another for both, but... Urrgh! I like switches I can see and
place near me. I don't have time to look at a little LCD display that is
hard to see in the midst of guitar and drum induced bedlam to twist a knob
and control my sonic destiny.

But the midi/preset edit would have been alot of changes to edit in and
mostly I don't have visual access to the V3. It's tucked back in a Rok-Sak
rack, and the controls I need are on the drawbar. When the V3 is used
outside it's too bright, inside it's not at eye level, etc. So I just did a
bug box that I can put in any midi line to shut it off. I asked around the
stores before I got the midi info (thanks, Clone wheelers!!!) and the parts
and all responses on the street were "Why would you want to shut off the
midi" So I went ahead and did it myself. It works great. No hum, no buzz.
Just stop playing all notes at switch time. I can do the switch mid-riff if
necessary.

The overall set up for my rig is time consuming, All midi, all stereo, but
ultimately it mounts on a three level Ultimate Apache Stand with a bunch of
re-usable wire ties, the unit can be lifted; V3, two keyboards, Rane SM-82
mixer and all Wall Warts, by two people and I need one AC power outlet and
direct boxes from the house to accept stereo TRS cables. Now I'm quicker
on and off stage than the guitar with lots of pedals.

RG
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From: Larry Schurr
Reply-To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:36:56 -0500
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Controllers and key action!

I did sumthin' like this only I switched the audio to keep the midi clean.

SPDT switch. center to amp input (instrument out), one side to module out,
other side to ground. That way the module is always 'playing', ya just
don't hafta hear it. When switched 'off', the input is grounded so there's
no hum.

Larry

>
> I use a V3 with two manuals, into the midi merge, a old Kawai K11 for the
> top and the Roland XP-30 for the bottom. The actions are similar, not a
> piano, not really weighted but is a budget system that works.
> I don't do anything with midi changes on the keyboards, the draw bars do
> that. I built a quick kill switch for the midi flow to the XP-30 for quick
> organ (top) and piano or Synth (bottom) simultaneous playing. Switching
> with active V3 midi stream will hang up. Switch between notes. All through
> a Rotosphere, fast - slow switched by side slip footswitch on the Ernie Ball
> pedal. Lots of set-up prep but lots of real time variabless for sound
> control.
> RG
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