From tymelys22@tadamson.greatxscape.net Wed Jan 10 13:41:51 2001
Subject:Re: Any Tips on Leslie Simulators

Hello,each,
Good subject to chew on, this Leslie simulator appraisal.
Like Ed, I find that the Rotosphere is a little tame, out of the box.
however there are gains to be made by EQ, experimenting with
alternative EQ on the two stereo channels and also reducing the
stereo spread by partially cross-mixing the two channels or
connecting both left and right into a mono amp. Finally instead of
using the normal right/left louspeaker set-up, setting up the
speakers back to back radiating outwards. I got good results in a
small studio using four satellite speakers radiating outwards with a
separate non-directional sub-woofer.
Cheers Thomas.

--- In VoceSupportGroup@egroups.com, "Ed Fliege" wrote:
> Hello mp, Dave and all,
> Deep in the archives of this group there must already be a post
from
> me detailing my experiences with Leslie simulators, but I've since
> added a Motion Sound R3-147 to the stable, and God knows it's a
topic
> we all like to talk about. In the past I have owned and/or played
> through a Voce SPIN, a Dynacord CLS 222, , a Univibe, a Korg G4, a
> H&K Rotosphere, a Digitech RPM1, a Motion Sound Pro3-T and now a
> Motion Sound R3-147. I also own a 40 yr old Leslie 147 which I've
> used to A/B these against. Before I bought the MS R3-147 I was a
> strong proponent of the Korg G4 which I felt had the most realistic
> phasing and ramping qualities, and also very flexible controls (one
> of my gripes against the Rotosphere). It doesn't have a real tube,
> but it's digital distortion is actually not too bad and you can
> always add a real tube preamp before it if you want. I know Bruce
> uses an ART 'Dual MP' for this; I'm currently using a
TubeWorks 'Blue
> Tube II' to do the same thing.
> With apologies to Dave and you other Rotosphere advocates, I feel
the
> Roto is tame. To me, the effect is just not pronounced enough and
> there is no way to adjust this. I will say that it does sound
great,
> but it doesn't emulate a Leslie that is "close mic'd" very well.
But
> it is quiet and is great for recording. This is an area where my
> playing situation demands a different Leslie sound. I play live in
a
> loud R&B/Rock band and for my Hammond licks to be heard above the
din
> I need a Leslie that's close mic'd and exagerated. Because you can
> adjust the microphone distance in both the Korg G4 and the MS R3-
147
> they work well for me.
> While we're on the subject of "noisy vs. quiet" simulators, I would
> like to point out that a real Leslie is a very noisy beast in it's
> own right. If you've got the Gain cranked up and both of the
motors
> & rotors spinnin' around; you're gonna know there's one in the room
> whether anyone's playing through it or not. I always use the noise
> gate in my dbx 166XL whether I'm playing through the Motion Sound
or
> my real Leslie. At the moment you're playing you can't appreciably
> hear any noise, and as soon as you let up on the keys you get
instant
> silence. I recommend a noise gate for anyone who's recording no
> matter which simulator you use.
> While the Motion Sound Pro3-T is not practical for apartment use,
the
> R3-147 is just like playing through any other effect box; even
though
> you're playing through a real horn rotor that is then mic'd, all
the
> sound is isolated in the case and you don't have to play loud to
get
> the desired effect. In fact, you can still play through a pair of
> headphones and never wake the kids. I also like the fact that I
can
> still send a line level signal to the Main P.A. without having to
> hook up my own mics; I just run it through the effects send/return
on
> my mixer. It really is the best of both worlds (it ought to be for
> what they cost).
> These are just my opinions and I don't wish to offend anyone if I
was
> too harsh about their prefered simulator. I will send a follow-up
> post with a bunch of links to various reviews and info pages about
> some of the simulators we've talked about here.
>
> Have fun.
>
> Ed Fliege
> k2mojo@g...