From nw@jump.net Mon Aug 14 23:16:47 2000
Subject:Re: [Voce] Re: Boss VF-1 as a Leslie simulator?

>what do you use to amplify your V3/H+K rig?

Keep in mind we are a loud, largeish rock/blues band (6 members, 3 of whom sing). So we have a non-trivial sound (and especially monitoring) set up.

Typically, I feed my signal to the house PA, fed with a line-out from a Roland KC500. I use the KC500 as my personal keyboard monitor.

I didn't build my set-up from scratch; I got there via a series of incremental steps and I'm not sure I've ended up in an optimal place. When we were playing "any gig we could get" (which mostly meant: parties thrown by friends and other odd/unusual venues) I played through a pair of KC500s (no signal sent to the PA; the band-owned PA back then was used only for vocals). The KC500s were great for that. Rugged, convenient, loud, etc.

Now that we mostly play bars/clubs, I let the sound guy handle the main sound. I still have my KC500s, so I use them as monitors (one for me, and one for the guy at the far end of the stage who would otherwise have trouble hearing my monitor over the drumkit). It's a nice luxury to essentially have my own personal monitor submix just for keyboards.

I used to use the mixer on the KC500 as my submixer, but I've just switched to using a rack mount (Ashly LX308). There was nothing sonically wrong with the KC500 submixer, but from a convenience perspective I really wanted a rack-mount. I have other rack-mount modules, and the rack-mount mixer lets me pre-wire everything so I have many fewer cables to plug in at set-up time. Also (more importantly) I can always reach the rack (it slides under the "eve" of my keyboard) whereas in some stage configurations I couldn't always reach the submixer on the KC500.

So bottom line is now I'm using the KC500s purely as powered speakers, for monitoring. I'm thinking there might be some better solution for that at this point (something smaller, lighter; maybe an EON15 or the new Mackie powered speakers; I'm not sure).

BTW, I *like* my KC500s, and would buy them again if I were back in the original "need a submixer, amp, and speaker in a convenient portable package" mode again.

Since I always like to include at least one "knock" on any product, here's my KC500 beef: no effects loop. Not that I personally need one; but it seems like a pretty annoying oversight (if you want to insert a compressor/limiter, for example, into your overall submix, you can't do it with the KC500).

- neil

P.S. How many people are playing stereo at gigs? I stopped doing that a while ago; even when I used two KC500s I just fed them a mono signal. I know this takes away from the Leslie effect, but in my experience it was hard to get the stereo signals balanced right; club acoustics are usually fickle, most of your audience isn't in the sweet spot, etc., so I've just punted and gone mono. Many fewer connections to check when something isn't working right! Interested in what other folks think about this.

----- Original Message -----
From: Eamonn Flynn
To: VoceSupportGroup@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Voce] Re: Boss VF-1 as a Leslie simulator?

All this H+K praise is making me want to check one out. Neil, what do you use to amplify your V3/ H+K rig?
Cheers,
Eamonn
Neil Webber wrote:

At the risk of being a "ditto" poster: ditto. I've been using the H&K for about 9 months now. ... etc

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